ten hours and one epidural later we are still watching tv. having delivered two kids without any pain meds, joyce decided she had proved her womanhood and is feeling very little south of the equator. "i am having contractions but i really can't feel them." God bless medication. she says it feels like the dreams when your legs don't work and you just can't outrun the bear. the catheter probably wouldn't help much with the outrunning bears part either. we might have a baby by midnight--which means i can wait until 4:00am to call curt. some of you will get that.